Yeh fuck Facefuck..oh and btw I think most of us have, at some point, either used our own pics as our avatar or at least posted our mugs on the pic threads (though not obligatory and why would it be, it's a forum for discussion) ..hmm..I think the regulars here are among the 'realest' metal people I have had the pleasure of contact with, you can figure people out a little even through this medium...