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Djiwo - Svvanantaka, Indonesia

 

2 hours ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

NP: Sigh - In Somniphobia

An old favorite. There's nothing quite like this album. There's so much here from all over the place musically it leaves me at a complete loss for words..  And Mr. Goatmaster, you might want to take a pass here. Yeah there's some black metal in there, but as far as everything this auditory Vulcan mind meld is comprised of, saying it's maybe fifteen percent BM is almost a generous estimate. It's just that black metal happens to be the most adjacent metal genre you could file this under.

Thanks for the disclaimer Cabbo-rama, but don't worry I already had my run in with Sigh some 15 years ago. Reco from a friend kind of a deal. Even bought a couple of their albums one time and tried to force myself to get into them. But at the end of the day the extreme weirdness was just too much for me to overcome. Haven't stopped back to check on them since then. Once I've decided a band's not for me I'll just ignore their albums when they drop. I think the last thing of theirs I ever heard before I gave up on them completely was Scenes From Hell, and that was 2010. They do have that 15 - 20% black metal in there, and it's pretty sick shit. That's how they hooked me. But a band like this is so frustrating for someone like me who just wants that 15% and none of the other 85% completely off the hinge insanity. I get why people might like them though, a totally unique and original band that's ridiculously talented. The front chick sax player Mika's a PhD in physics, went to high school in California. They could play just about anything they wanted to and it would probably sound awesome. If only they used their talents for evil and not for weirdness. Betcha invited guest speaker Doc secretly digs Sigh. 

 

NP: Délétère - Songes d'une Nuit Souillée, (Dreams of a Dirty Night) Quebecois Noir. Yes this is more my speed, 100% black metal. 

 

Primal - Lunacy, Poland. Between the Poles and the Ukranians the Slavs definitely know their way around black metal. Apparently this is the dude's 9th full length, but this is the first time I've heard one of them. Really good shit.

 

 

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NP: Nächtlich - Exaltation of Evil

▶︎ Exaltation Of Evil | Nächtlich | Deathful Lust (bandcamp.com)

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Falls on the raw side of the black metal spectrum, but I have to say they utilize the keyboard excellently allowing it to contribute to the songs without dulling the rough edges or giving the impression of lushness that you tend to hear when a band tries to shoehorn the orchestral effects into a sound that's pretty hardened and unmalleable to outside influences. The keyboards here play their part and they're not meant to sound like an orchestra. They're meant to sound like budget keys in all their limitations, and all their charm (for lack of a better term). Given their expert implementation, I doubt the band would have it any other way. They're on the raw side because everything recorded is on the raw side, and I'm really enjoying it, warts and all.

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20 minutes ago, Nasty_Cabbage said:

NP: Nächtlich - Exaltation of Evil

Falls on the raw side of the black metal spectrum, but I have to say they utilize the keyboard excellently allowing it to contribute to the songs without dulling the rough edges or giving the impression of lushness that you tend to hear when a band tries to shoehorn the orchestral effects into a sound that's pretty hardened and unmalleable to outside influences. The keyboards here play their part and they're not meant to sound like an orchestra. They're meant to sound like budget keys in all their limitations, and all their charm (for lack of a better term). Given their expert implementation, I doubt the band would have it any other way. They're on the raw side because everything recorded is on the raw side, and I'm really enjoying it, warts and all.

I don't mind this at all, and the keys aren't bothering me, I agree they're being used properly here to enhance the music. In recent years a lot of bands have finally figured out that less is more with the keys. So it's an enjoyable enough listen if not necessarily purchase-worthy. But I really can't see how this would be considered 'raw black metal'. And not just because of the keys, although clearly they do contribute a little bit to softening the harshness. I guess I've just gone so far down the raw black metal hole and have been hanging out down here for so long now that I've developed my own proprietary and more demanding scale for measuring rawness. Now that I'm 3/4 of the way through this I might have to retract my statement about it not being purchase-worthy. I'm still on the fence, but I'll deffo be coming back to this again for further evaluation. Nice find Cabbarulean.

And I hope you don't think I'm picking on you by commenting negatively on every god damned album you highlight here on this thread. You're one of the few posters here who consistently posts new stuff that's just barely outside my net that I often find intriguing and interesting and have something to say about. Which is the great thig about a metal forum, there are people who will help you catch some stuff you might've missed if left to your own devices. Most of these other malakas just post their same old albums without much if any comment and leave it at that, and that's fine, I do that too quite frequently. But you always say a little something about these albums you post so I figure you're probably open to a little discussion about them.

 

Old Leshy - Na Skraju Przepaści, Poland. Fantastic rbm that like Nächtlich also uses background keys to great effect.

 

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6 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

I don't mind this at all, and the keys aren't bothering me, I agree they're being used properly here to enhance the music. In recent years a lot of bands have finally figured out that less is more with the keys. So it's an enjoyable enough listen if not necessarily purchase-worthy. But I really can't see how this would be considered 'raw black metal'. And not just because of the keys, although clearly they do contribute a little bit to softening the harshness. I guess I've just gone so far down the raw black metal hole and have been hanging out down here for so long now that I've developed my own proprietary and more demanding scale for measuring rawness. Now that I'm 3/4 of the way through this I might have to retract my statement about it not being purchase-worthy. I'm still on the fence, but I'll deffo be coming back to this again for further evaluation. Nice find Cabbarulean.

And I hope you don't think I'm picking on you by commenting negatively on every god damned album you highlight here on this thread. You're one of the few posters here who consistently posts new stuff that's just barely outside my net that I often find intriguing and interesting and have something to say about. Which is the great thig about a metal forum, there are people who will help you catch some stuff you might've missed if left to your own devices. Most of these other malakas just post their same old albums without much if any comment and leave it at that, and that's fine, I do that too quite frequently. But you always say a little something about these albums you post so I figure you're probably open to a little discussion about them.

Nah man. Even when posting something negative, you do so in as agreeable manner as possible, which is nice and I appreciate it. I enjoy the discussion and I try to post a little bit about what I'm listening to just because it's... well it's an internet forum. Discussion is what it's for. Also posting the ten bagillionth time I've listened to that same Witchfinder General ep is probably not that interesting to anybody but myself. It's also fun for me to fanboy over stuff, but I try to limit that.

In any case the scale for the 'rawness' of something is certainly open to interpretation. We all love Venom, to be sure. I'll check out Old Leshy here in a few minutes. Your recommendation is enough in it's own right to merit at least a listen, plus that band name makes me think about somebody waking up from a blackout in cigarette stained sheets next to the local town barfly who looks like an Ent that got tangled up in power lines a few too many times.

5 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Actually they are a bit too self consciously all over the shop for me and not enough metal. So there.

Heresy!

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5 hours ago, Thatguy said:

Actually they are a bit too self consciously all over the shop for me and not enough metal. So there.

That's why I said secretly.

 

Old Skull – The Cult, savage brutal death metal from Poland 2022. This dude eschews the requisite low gutterals and takes a more feral approach to the vocals. Having gone to American schools I know next to fuck all about most of these Slavic eastern European countries. I've done a little research on the history and culture of Russia, or more specifically the non European republics of Russia east of the Urals (Siberia essentially, the Golden Horde and all that) and the North Caucasus region that lies farther south between the Caspian and Black Seas. But I still know very little about the Slavic countries of Eastern Europe. I've known more than a few Polish and Russian people from when I worked in NY since they each have large populations of ex-pats in NYC, and they've been pretty cool for the most part. But that's not the same as knowing the history of those countries. I do know that Poland, Ukraine and Belarus make some pretty sick black and death metal. Seems to be something of a well kept secret though since the US, UK, Germany and the Nordic countries get most the attention.

 

Dig Me No Grave - Under the Pyramids, Russia 2020

 

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