Opinions on new wave of thrash?

[GoatmasterGeneral]

1 hour ago, AlSymerz said:

It's funny how these sorts of threads always come to the same conclusion. Thrash is the best.

Thrash can't be the best because black metal exists. And death metal. And war metal. And crust punk. And Mongolian throat singing. Thrash doesn't even crack the top 5.

[AlSymerz]

10 hours ago, Arioch said:

Yes, but it all depends on the period.

Nup, sorry, without coffee I can't come up with a period joke that isn't inappropriate.

9 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Thrash can't be the best because black metal exists. And death metal. And war metal. And crust punk. And Mongolian throat singing. Thrash doesn't even crack the top 5.

Yeah but they all copied Thrash and the clone can never be as good as the original.

 

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[RelentlessOblivion]

10 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Thrash can't be the best because black metal exists. And death metal. And war metal. And crust punk. And Mongolian throat singing. Thrash doesn't even crack the top 5.

And Doom, and Sludge, and Blues, and Grindcore, so at best Thrash barely scrapes into the top 10…

 

alright, let’s give a slightly more serious. Answer. The best modern Thrash bands and albums blending it with other genres. Very few pure Thrash bands managed to catch my attention these days.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

4 hours ago, AlSymerz said:

Yeah but they all copied thrash and the clone can never be as good as the original.

None of these other metal sub-genres copied thrash, they were influenced by thrash. Big difference. In the mid 80's thrash was the shit. It was on the cutting edge of heaviness, aggression and ferocity. By the 90's not so much. It had been surpassed. These other more extreme sub-genres took their foundations in thrash and added lots of other cool shit to the recipe which ended up improving it drastically. Not unlike how thrash took Sabbath and NWOBHM added some hardcore punk aggression to it and came up with thrash, which was a drastic improvement over the NWOBHM it had been based on. 

[AlSymerz]

Nope, everything from day 1 has been a copy of it's predecessor and each copy takes with it some degradation of the original.

[RelentlessOblivion]

1 hour ago, AlSymerz said:

Nope, everything from day 1 has been a copy of it's predecessor and each copy takes with it some degradation of the original.

By this logic thrash would be a degraded inferior version of heavy metal, itself a degraded and imperial version of rock and someone and so forth. That’s definitely true of some genres, I think industrial is weaker for the electronic elements and simplicity but it’s far from being true across the board

[AlSymerz]

3 minutes ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

By this logic thrash would be a degraded inferior version of heavy metal, itself a degraded and imperial version of rock and someone and so forth.

I never said it wasn't.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

Just now, RelentlessOblivion said:

By this logic thrash would be a degraded inferior version of heavy metal, itself a degraded and imperial version of rock and someone and so forth. That’s definitely true of some genres, I think industrial is weaker for the electronic elements and simplicity but it’s far from being true across the board.

Don't pay any attention to anything Vic says, it's worse than trying to argue with my ten year old who seems to think he's 18. Every post Orca makes along these lines he apparently either thinks he's making some kind of a joke, or he's being contrary just for the sake of it, or he'll say something completely ridiculous and then when you respond he'll tell you not to take his nonsense so literally. This is how he entertains himself on a slow boring day with the cows I suppose, but he keeps you guessing, you never have any way of knowing which one of these possibilities it might be each time.

"Everything from day 1 has been a copy of it's predecessor" is a completely nonsensical statement on its face, so I won't even bother to respond. Nothing good could come of it. He's probably just trying to get a reaction out of me anyway. I think the Orca really just needs more black metal in his life. That's what keeps me so happy-go-lucky. All thrash and no black makes Vic a dull boy. He might find it cathartic. Or maybe he just needs to take a good long shit or go in for a colon cleanse or something. Maybe he just needs a good blowie to empty the tank and then he'd come right and we could reason with him. I have seen him engage in reasonably normal convos without playing all his games a few times over the last 3 years, so I know it's at least theoretically possible. Fuck if I can remember the last time that could have been though.

But anyway, nice to see ya there Blivvington, I'd been wondering where you've been. How're you goin' mate, you find yourself a job in the kitchen yet? 

[RelentlessOblivion]

1 hour ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Don't pay any attention to anything Vic says, it's worse than trying to argue with my ten year old who seems to think he's 18. Every post Orca makes along these lines he apparently either thinks he's making some kind of a joke, or he's being contrary just for the sake of it, or he'll say something completely ridiculous and then when you respond he'll tell you not to take his nonsense so literally. This is how he entertains himself on a slow boring day with the cows I suppose, but he keeps you guessing, you never have any way of knowing which one of these possibilities it might be each time.

"Everything from day 1 has been a copy of it's predecessor" is a completely nonsensical statement on its face, so I won't even bother to respond. Nothing good could come of it. He's probably just trying to get a reaction out of me anyway. I think the Orca really just needs more black metal in his life. That's what keeps me so happy-go-lucky. All thrash and no black makes Vic a dull boy. He might find it cathartic. Or maybe he just needs to take a good long shit or go in for a colon cleanse or something. Maybe he just needs a good blowie to empty the tank and then he'd come right and we could reason with him. I have seen him engage in reasonably normal convos without playing all his games a few times over the last 3 years, so I know it's at least theoretically possible. Fuck if I can remember the last time that could have been though.

But anyway, nice to see ya there Blivvington, I'd been wondering where you've been. How're you goin' mate, you find yourself a job in the kitchen yet? Sadly no, not for lack of trying though,. I agree black metal would fix a lot of his problems, especially with the bitter cold this Australian winter. I know it’s been keeping me busy. I must know how to play about half of Fuck the Universe now and yes, I do mean half the magnificent third Craft album and not just the song….

 

[AlSymerz]

11 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Don't pay any attention to anything Vic says, it's worse than trying to argue with my ten year old who seems to think he's 18. Every post Orca makes along these lines he apparently either thinks he's making some kind of a joke, or he's being contrary just for the sake of it, or he'll say something completely ridiculous and then when you respond he'll tell you not to take his nonsense so literally. This is how he entertains himself on a slow boring day with the cows I suppose, but he keeps you guessing, you never have any way of knowing which one of these possibilities it might be each time.

 

Awe, don't be like that.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

13 hours ago, RelentlessOblivion said:

I agree black metal would fix a lot of his problems, especially with the bitter cold this Australian winter. I know it’s been keeping me busy. I must know how to play about half of Fuck the Universe now and yes, I do mean half the magnificent third Craft album and not just the song….

Today's temperatures down under in the dead of winter. This is bitter cold? Even a soft pampered Aussie bloke such as yourself couldn't possibly think this is bitter cold. Even chilly Canberra will be 46°F today, and Adelaide will hit 60° that's t-shirt weather. I see Darwin will reach 86° this afternoon, that's a bit too warm for my blood. That's 4°F (or 2°C) warmer than we had here today in the dog days of summer. We did have several days of around 94° (34°C) last week and I thought I was gonna die.

[RelentlessOblivion]

2 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Today's temperatures down under in the dead of winter. This is bitter cold? Even a soft pampered Aussie bloke such as yourself couldn't possibly think this is bitter cold. Even chilly Canberra will be 46°F today, and Adelaide will hit 60° that's t-shirt weather. I see Darwin will reach 86° this afternoon, that's a bit too warm for my blood. That's 4°F (or 2°C) warmer than we had here today in the dog days of summer. We did have several days of around 94° (34°C) last week and I thought I was gonna die

I’ll take 34 Celsius every day of the week thank you, with windchill it’s 51°F here right now a full 9°F colder than the average for this time of year.

[AlSymerz]

Just got to get out and do something and you barely even notice the 110kph winds or the 9.5 temp.

 

[Thatguy]

4 hours ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Even chilly Canberra will be 46°F today,

Whatever that is. It actually only got to 6 real degrees. There was freezing rain and a strong bitter wind...still, I went for a nice walk in that so it can't have been too bad. Yer just have to dress appropriately. There should be snow on the hills overnight I think.

Unlike houses in the rest of Australia we do make an effort here and my place is pretty well insulated, double glazing etc

I have no opinion on the so called new wave of thrash but I'm sure the Orca will be on the wrong side.

[AlSymerz]

Like there is a wrong side.

I just installed block out, thermal, noise reduction curtains around here, they don't do a bad job of keeping the heat in over night. Will be interesting to see what they do over the summer.