Venue Food Vendors

[RexKeltoi]

Apparently hundreds of people got sick at the Download Festival, I myself would never eat a venue no matter how hungry I was. Anyone else had this experience?

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[AlSymerz]

I wouldn't eat at a concert venue where it was only a few hours, but aren't all Download Festivals at least full day events if not multi day events? I've worked plenty of all day events where the food is fine, usually over priced, but fine.

I would reckon there is just as much chance of copping a dose of the shits from a restaurant as there is from a music venue.

[RexKeltoi]

On 6/22/2024 at 3:57 AM, AlSymerz said:

I wouldn't eat at a concert venue where it was only a few hours, but aren't all Download Festivals at least full day events if not multi day events? I've worked plenty of all day events where the food is fine, usually over priced, but fine.

I would reckon there is just as much chance of copping a dose of the shits from a restaurant as there is from a music venue.

i think it all depends on the temperature the food is stored at, really surprised it was the beef, it is one of the most temp stable foods I suspect it is in the gravy. There was incident in Toronto at the CNE where they introduced a new item called the Cronut it was the filling that killed the unfortunate souls that ate it. As for a festival I would rather just fast as I intermittent fast daily pretty much OMAD, I take in my calories in one of 2 meals and I don't snack or eat junk food of any kind. I would rather bring a box of temp stable protein bars and other than water I am good. When I hike with my son 10 to 20 k we never bring food for the day, just protein bars, electrolytes and water, I feel much better when my stomach is empty anyways   

[AlSymerz]

There is no doubt that some public event places have questionable food handling techniques. There has been plenty of food trucks etc that I have avoided over the years purely because of their appearance. But these days even I'm a whimp when it comes to some of these things. Still, accidents happen, even in restaurants, and it's not like all food vendors everywhere are an issue.

We used to do farmers expos and trade events that would happen over 4 or 5 days. In the 80's and 90's we did music festivals that lasted for 2 and 3 days. Eating from the food trucks was just part of the event. We used to do the Hells Angels and the Commancheros end of year Christmas parties. You don't take food in and you don't ask where food is coming from, if others are eating it you eat it when your hungry. Eating out of modern food trucks is not a concern after seeing some of the meals at those events.

[GoatmasterGeneral]

6 hours ago, RexKeltoi said:

i think it all depends on the temperature the food is stored at, really surprised it was the beef, it is one of the most temp stable foods I suspect it is in the gravy. There was incident in Toronto at the CNE where they introduced a new item called the Cronut it was the filling that killed the unfortunate souls that ate it. As for a festival I would rather just fast as I intermittent fast daily pretty much OMAD, I take in my calories in one of 2 meals and I don't snack or eat junk food of any kind. I would rather bring a box of temp stable protein bars and other than water I am good. When I hike with my son 10 to 20 k we never bring food for the day, just protein bars, electrolytes and water, I feel much better when my stomach is empty anyways   

Never really understood this eating repeatedly throughout the day thing. I have coffee with maybe a blueberry muffin or something to nibble on generally somewhere between like 1pm and 3pm, then dinner typically around 8 or 9pm and that's it. Just water the rest of the time. Just past midnight currently here and I never even got around to having my dinner at all tonight, just the 2pm coffee. Did feed the boy a turkey sandwich on rye around 7pm (that's what he asked for) but I wasn't hungry yet then so I didn't eat with him, I just went back upstairs. Then somehow I never got around to eating. Should probably go down and find a little something to nibble on. But it's 12:15am I'm not gonna start cooking a big meal now. 

[RexKeltoi]

5 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

Never really understood this eating repeatedly throughout the day thing. I have coffee with maybe a blueberry muffin or something to nibble on generally somewhere between like 1pm and 3pm, then dinner typically around 8 or 9pm and that's it. Just water the rest of the time. Just past midnight currently here and I never even got around to having my dinner at all tonight, just the 2pm coffee. Did feed the boy a turkey sandwich on rye around 7pm (that's what he asked for) but I wasn't hungry yet then so I didn't eat with him, I just went back upstairs. Then somehow I never got around to eating. Should probably go down and find a little something to nibble on. But it's 12:15am I'm not gonna start cooking a big meal now. 

I've done that many times, I just go to bed hungry and have a big breakfast when I get up or drink a protein shake to maintain my caloric intake before I sleep without wrecking havoc on my intestinal system trying to digest food all night. It is never a bad thing to skip a meal the average human only needs 2,000 calories a day for women, 2,500 for us dudes. I try to keep mine around 2,000 in the spring and summer to make up for 10-15 pounds I gain during the fall-winter. Been on this planet for over half a century and have never seen so many people in self induced poor health, it is astonishing really and fuckin sad.  

6 hours ago, AlSymerz said:

There is no doubt that some public event places have questionable food handling techniques. There has been plenty of food trucks etc that I have avoided over the years purely because of their appearance. But these days even I'm a whimp when it comes to some of these things. Still, accidents happen, even in restaurants, and it's not like all food vendors everywhere are an issue.

We used to do farmers expos and trade events that would happen over 4 or 5 days. In the 80's and 90's we did music festivals that lasted for 2 and 3 days. Eating from the food trucks was just part of the event. We used to do the Hells Angels and the Commancheros end of year Christmas parties. You don't take food in and you don't ask where food is coming from, if others are eating it you eat it when your hungry. Eating out of modern food trucks is not a concern after seeing some of the meals at those events.

I hear ya on that one 

[GoatmasterGeneral]

1 minute ago, RexKeltoi said:

I've done that many times, I just go to bed hungry and have a big breakfast when I get up or drink a protein shake to maintain my caloric intake before I sleep without wrecking havoc on my intestinal system trying to digest food all night. It is never a bad thing to skip a meal the average human only needs 2,000 calories a day for women, 2,500 for us dudes. I try to keep mine around 2,000 in the spring and summer to make up for 10-15 pounds I gain during the fall-winter. Been on this planet for over half a century and have never seen so many people in self induced poor health, it is astonishing really and fuckin sad.  

That's part of why I only eat the one big meal. I don't count or keep track of them, but I figure it'd be hard to go over the 2,500 calories with just one meal and a coffee. The other reason is I'm just not hungry in the mornings. After so many years of not eating in the mornings it wouldn't even occur to me to eat anything before 1 or 2pm at the earliest. Some days it's 3 or 4. Hunger is mostly psychological. If your body knows there won't be any food coming for many more hours it won't even bother sending you hunger signals. But if you eat around the same time every day your body knows that too, and will start telling you you're hungry right on cue. But I'm a stubborn bastard, I refuse to be a slave to hunger pangs, I'll eat when I'm good and ready to.

[RexKeltoi]

9 minutes ago, GoatmasterGeneral said:

That's part of why I only eat the one big meal. I don't count or keep track of them, but I figure it'd be hard to go over the 2,500 calories with just one meal and a coffee. The other reason is I'm just not hungry in the mornings. After so many years of not eating in the mornings it wouldn't even occur to me to eat anything before 1 or 2pm at the earliest. Some days it's 3 or 4. Hunger is mostly psychological. If your body knows there won't be any food coming for many more hours it won't even bother sending you hunger signals. But if you eat around the same time every day your body knows that too, and will start telling you you're hungry right on cue. But I'm a stubborn bastard, I refuse to be a slave to hunger pangs, I'll eat when I'm good and ready to.

Too many people eat just out of habit or because they are bored, even worst eat fast food instead of skipping the meal, they don't realize you are much better drinking water, the hunger will go away and you won't be poisoning your body