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Aren't they the folks who insist on 'faith healing' as a doctrinal paradigm? I've also heard it's Jehovah's Witnesses doctrine that surgery is immoral. Still, both of these are one hell of a lot more coherent than 'Christan Science'. Oddly, the Christian Science Monitor is vastly more credible than their actual Scriptures - but I have to wonder why they report any news at all, since they believe everything in this world is an illusion willfully created by human minds, so none of it means anything.
I believe so, but I don't think that it's necessarily surgery that they're opposed to, I think it's blood transfusions. However, as most surgeries require blood transfusions, they don't have them. I'm not familiar with Christian Science though, what exactly is it about them that makes them looney? Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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I'm not familiar with Christian Science though' date=' what exactly is it about them that makes them looney?[/quote'] They believe that reason is entirely moot since the whole world is just an illusion existing within human minds. Every single problem that a person encounters is due to their lack of belief. In other words, everything that ever happens to you is your own fault - if you have any problems, you're just not believing hard enough. Scientists, as they are evidently called, also commit the absolutely fatal Mormon error of saying that their beliefs stem directly from the Bible, and they claim the Bible as a text equally holy to the writings of their prophet Mary Baker Eddy.
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I believe so' date=' but I don't think that it's necessarily surgery that they're opposed to, I think it's blood transfusions. However, as most surgeries require blood transfusions, they don't have them. I'm not familiar with Christian Science though, what exactly is it about them that makes them looney? Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2[/quote'] Christian Scientists believe that, since God is the Universal Mind and we're all just expressions of that, disease and injury don't exist and can be healed through faith. If the injury or disease persists, it's because you haven't tried hard enough.They don't forbid medical treatment, but they do claim that prayer works better if it's not aided by treatment. I have a childhood friend whose father was raised by Christian Scientists, and he has burn scars from where he fell into a fireplace as a child - they wouldn't allow him to see a doctor. Somehow, that was legal... Their little cult was started by a charismatic, hypochondriac woman in the late 1800s; she peddled her "religion" as a cure for all diseases (for a hefty price), and she couldn't even keep her own story straight. It was transparently motivated by her desire for profit and power and her obsession with disease. What amazes me is that it still has any adherents. Parallels with Mormonism abound. edit - Aaaand Iceni beat me to it. :D
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Reading John Calvin just now, in order to understand exactly what intellectual tradition Presbyterianism has, and it's interesting. He does actually believe in democracy, but not very strongly in separation of church and state - mainly on the understanding that the very fact that the two spheres exist because God has ordained them in the first place, which would make any attempt to separate them somewhat disingenuous without proper understanding. He also seems very leery of the notion of revolution, which I think is because he believes it ought to be a last resort. He also champions abrogation as long as the underlying principles are not compromised. So far, nothing anathema.

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Hey all, hope you weren't too worried about me, guess I should give you all the rundown. Ok officially been out of hospital 9 days. Still having dizzy spells (they will apparently take another two or three weeks to settle completely). In the end I needed two surgeries as the initial operation was unsuccessful (doctors didn't lift the cheekbone high enough). There is the prospect of a third surgery if it doesn't appear the bone is healing correctly but I'll worry about that in three weeks time. Total recovery time is four to six months and I'm on a soft "no chew" diet for at least another month yet. I've also had to withdraw from this semmester of uni (a great shame as my grades were phenomenal before the accident). The little sight I have has been affected by the operation and more specifically the swelling on the left side of my face. Basically my left eyesight is blurry as shit making reading far more difficult. Ironically my left eye is normally my good eye so it seems the universe has a sick sense of humour. So to summarise my life sucks right now except for one detail. My footy team is currently the best in the competition having lost just one game in their first eight.
Sounds like a serious injury, hopefully you'll be back better than ever before long. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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Nah it's not like a limb or spinal injury. Just need to wait for the bone to heal and avoid chewing for a month or so. Being off the bike for six months though that will drive me mad. I can get on the trainer as soon as I'm feeling up to it but even if I aim for two sessions a day six days a week over that time there's a huge difference between trainer fit and road or track fit.

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Yeah it was' date=' fortunately the worst should be behind me. Looking forward to a good steak (medium rare of course) when I'm finally able to eat proper food again.[/quote'] Of course, as it is not possible for a steak to be both good and cooked more than to medium rare. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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I'm back again' date=' apologies for the frequent absence but it's incredibly difficult to post anything when your eyesight is so blurry most of the time you can't see anything.[/quote'] Don't worry, now that we know you are recovering we won't panic if you don't post for a few days :D Thank you :)
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Where is everyone? seriously like a ghost town right now
I've been busier than usual - starting a new band with some friends, and between practice and writing time, I haven't been on the computer nearly as much. I also find that I listen to less music when I'm busy writing, so I feel like I don't have as much to talk about. Aside from the Swans album and the music we put on at my drummer's house last night, I haven't listened to anything for a few days. (We had a fun time singing along to Vulgar Display Of Power and The Wall, all the way through... his neighbors must hate us.)
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