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I've got hundreds of albums I still want to buy' date=' The Forever Endeavor being one of them. There's a market with metal items in November however, so I'm saving up some money for then. I often have to pay outrageous amounts of money for shipping, so I like to grasp opportunities such as this one with both hands. Once it's over, I'll be considering which album I'll buy online next.[/quote'] Try to find some local labels and distros that stock albums from there labels. You can usually check a label's website to find their affiliate or distributor in the area, which can save you a ton on shipping.
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Death - Sound of Persevarance. Excellent album' date=' but definitely not death metal (or, how call it many people, progressive metal. I can't hear any progress here, what doesn't make it worse).[/quote'] "Progressive", as far as Death goes, really refers to their influence from progressive rock, which in turn pulled from jazz and classical. I hear a lot of different things going on there, including a King Crimson influence - odd timing, unusual chords and arpeggios. But I'd argue your point. Death was nothing if not progressive in the literal sense, never conforming to a mainstream idea of death metal, consistently pushing their own boundaries and developing different ways of expressing their own (Chuck's own) vision. They were influential from their first recordings and continue to be so today.
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"Progressive"' date=' as far as Death goes, really refers to their influence from progressive rock, which in turn pulled from jazz and classical. I hear a lot of different things going on there, including a King Crimson influence - odd timing, unusual chords and arpeggios. But I'd argue your point. Death was nothing if not progressive in the literal sense, never conforming to a mainstream idea of death metal, consistently pushing their own boundaries and developing different ways of expressing their own (Chuck's own) vision. They were influential from their first recordings and continue to be so today.[/quote'] Symbolic. Was progressive too. I think
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"Progressive"' date=' as far as Death goes, really refers to their influence from progressive rock, which in turn pulled from jazz and classical. I hear a lot of different things going on there, including a King Crimson influence - odd timing, unusual chords and arpeggios. But I'd argue your point. Death was nothing if not progressive in the literal sense, never conforming to a mainstream idea of death metal, consistently pushing their own boundaries and developing different ways of expressing their own (Chuck's own) vision. They were influential from their first recordings and continue to be so today.[/quote'] I can't agree with defining progress this way, but language barrier hinders me strong from talking uncasual and precise discussion, so I won't rape with my words this very interesting topic. In fact, every attempt to defining "progressive music" is biting off more than we can chew. High on Fire - Death is This Communion. Hard, heavy and very honest. Last LP from Pike's group which is really worth listening.
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I can't agree with defining progress this way, but language barrier hinders me strong from talking uncasual and precise discussion, so I won't rape with my words this very interesting topic. In fact, every attempt to defining "progressive music" is biting off more than we can chew. High on Fire - Death is This Communion. Hard, heavy and very honest. Last LP from Pike's group which is really worth listening.
I'd be interested to hear how you define progress in general, though, especially in a musical context. I really don't care that much about the label "progressive-whatever kind of metal", now that it's been so overused - it's starting to seem kind of like calling something "post-whatever kind of metal", a modifier people use until they come up with something better. But I think Death is one of a few bands that the "progressive" label genuinely fits. As far as your English, it's a discussion forum, so don't worry. We don't usually pick on people for that unless our names are Relentless Oblivion. :D
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I'd be interested to hear how you define progress in general' date=' though, especially in a musical context.[/quote'] That's the problem, because "progressive" determines totally nothing. Any characteristic chords, structure, sound, just nothing. There's only one requirement - it must be something new, something influential for people listening to it. But with this definition we can name "progressive" for example Sex Pistols. They were first, started big movement in music. And - of course - they were heavily influented by hard rock bands, which were "progressive" some time ago. I don't wanna try to do something impossible second time. We got the same situation with Death. When I listen to Atheist, I wonder, what kind of progress did I see in Death years before. Of course, influences are slightly different, but those crazy fuckers did it better, years before Schuldiner backtracked from death metal.
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