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10 hours ago, MacabreEternal said:

Whether this is your channel or just a favoured channel, it is still getting promotion - hence moved to the promo thread.

No problem, just looking for stuff to share in case someone interested, trying to add a bit more to the forum andhopefully attract more interaction and new members, this is material I usually check out 🤘

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On 6/29/2024 at 4:28 PM, AlSymerz said:

Manilla Road. That's one band I could never get into. Don't know what it was, I tried quite a few times to listen to their stuff but nothing ever clicked.

Have to agree with you, always hear about them being referenced as trailblazers, I don't get the hype honestly 🤷‍♂️ 

Metal School - Running Wild: The Origin of Pirate Metal

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8 hours ago, AlSymerz said:

Now Running Wild I can get along with.

I remember buying Gates of Purgatory on import from Record Peddler, Brian the owner who is a local metal legend here used to preorder vinyl for us and most metal could only be found on import here early 80's late 70's. He is in Eve of Darkness the book on the early metal scene in Toronto, in fact a lot of my friends contributed material to make the book and were in a lot of the bands the deluxe has collectibles, its a good read on the early metal scene. My son plays bass and wants to do Prisoners of our Time with me, it was the first song I learned from the album 🤘

https://www.amazon.ca/Eve-Darkness-Toronto-Heavy-Metal/dp/1999388518    

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1 hour ago, RexKeltoi said:

I remember buying Gates of Purgatory on import from Record Peddler, Brian the owner who is a local metal legend here used to preorder vinyl for us and most metal could only be found on import here early 80's late 70's. He is in Eve of Darkness the book on the early metal scene in Toronto, in fact a lot of my friends contributed material to make the book and were in a lot of the bands the deluxe has collectibles, its a good read on the early metal scene. My son plays bass and wants to do Prisoners of our Time with me, it was the first song I learned from the album 🤘

https://www.amazon.ca/Eve-Darkness-Toronto-Heavy-Metal/dp/1999388518    

We didn't here much RW here in OZ until Under Jolly Roger came out and everyone wanted it because it came with a warning on the cover about the cannon noises at the start.

 

14 minutes ago, RexKeltoi said:

Metal School Manowar

A band I unfortunately have never seen 

They'd be worth seeing. I've got several of their live DVD's and they always put on a good show.

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11 hours ago, AlSymerz said:

We didn't here much RW here in OZ until Under Jolly Roger came out and everyone wanted it because it came with a warning on the cover about the cannon noises at the start.

 

They'd be worth seeing. I've got several of their live DVD's and they always put on a good show.

I thought Canada sucked for getting international metal from the 70's to early 80's, think that is there 3rd 0r 4th album 🤔 Did you have niche music stores where you could order and get imports? I know they were expensive here back then, sometimes $40 for an album that would cost under $10 domestic. I could have waited a year or more to get Gates on domestic but my circle were either hanging out at the Record Peddler, Long and McQuade checking out guitar and gear or seeing a show sometimes all 3 in the same day. Music was our life and everyone wanted to be the 1st to own a copy so Import prices were nothing to sweat about, we wore the same plain t shirts jeans and leather jackets for years, not wasting money on clothes allowed us the freedom to do all these things back then. I think we used to leave a 50% deposit when ordering imports.

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The 70's and 80's were a different time. I don't think any country had a huge international scene, we certainly didn't because we were too far away. Bands like AC/DC managed a few tours but they spent the best part of a decade away from home to become an over night success in other countries. Into the early 80's we had other bands try the AC/DC formula and not succeed. But all that lead to a stronger local scene.

We didn't have many bands tour here either, but it did happen. Black Sabbath toured here in the early 70's and were in total awe of a guy named Billy Thorpe who headlined the festival they played at. In the mid 80's we had a few thrash bands tour but nothing huge and it wasn't until Metallica broke the world with Justice that international bands really made a dent.

We had a few radio shows through the 80's but when anything imported took 6-8 weeks to arrive, and that's if you could get an order sheet for the labels that were selling, many people just didn't bother. There was also several metal shops in the country that handled imports, one of which is still open today, and they sold magazines and records from overseas but everything was 6-8 weeks behind at least. It got better by the late 80's as more tours and more labels signed deals with labels that had a local presence.

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On 9/22/2024 at 2:08 PM, Hellstedt said:

Thanks for sharing! I really like the idea of your channel, will visit again. I personally hadn't heard of a bunch of these bands!

I've actually trying to find a book on the history of metal, but I couldn't settle on one. Nothing clicked. Maybe you have a suggestion? 

 

 

 

Thanks man, it isn't my channel actually but glad you like it, the admin moved it here because they felt it was a promotion regardless of who was the creator. Just trying to introduce metalhead's into something that might have went under their radar, being into metal since 1970 there is a lot of people who are not ancient like myself 😅 that might find this guys videos interesting and informative🤘 Just got back from a long vacation so I can start posting again. 

Metal School - Sortilege 

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Oh, sorry, I misunderstood. Well, that's even nicer of you, sharing stuff just because you thought it interesting!

I'm a 80's kid, a little younger than you. The metal I am most acquainted with starts with is 80's heavy metal and American thrash. I actually listened to a lot of Manowar when I was in grade school. 😁 I remember Return of the Warlord was a recently released album (I think?) and got played a lot. 

 

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Now there's a band that seems to divide a lot of people. Manowar's concerts all seem to be huge events when they are on video, even going back as far as the 80's. Yet so many people slam them with insults, anything from their desire to get oiled up and topless to their inability to play. I've been into them since Into Glory Ride.

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7 hours ago, AlSymerz said:

Now there's a band that seems to divide a lot of people. Manowar's concerts all seem to be huge events when they are on video, even going back as far as the 80's. Yet so many people slam them with insults, anything from their desire to get oiled up and topless to their inability to play. I've been into them since Into Glory Ride.

The cheese factor of all that death to false metal nonsense coupled with the massage oil and loincloth aesthetic was a bit too much to take from a band that wasn't very good. If they would have been a little bit heavier their schtick might have worked a bit better, but they weren't, so it didn't. To many of us metalheads they were every bit as frooty and weaksauce as all those 'false metal' bands they were disparaging.

Personally I thought they sucked right from the beginning, even before I had seen their pictures or heard any of the death to false metal crap. Their sound was too thin, I was looking for wall of noise bands in the 80's. I think a second guitar could have really helped them, but they weren't a guitar band, they were more of a singing group. An image band. Style over substance. They wanted to appeal to chicks to sell records I assume, just like the glam bands they ragged on did. Don't get much falser than that. If they were trying to be the American Iron Maiden, then they failed miserably.

They certainly have their cult following though, I'll give them that. To each his own.

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Their schtick is no different to white face paint and screaming incoherently about satan. It's no different to a bunch of guys singing about pussy and having sex with women. It's just a gimmick to get noticed and it worked. Not only did it work the 80's was the right time to do it, the same schtick wouldn't work anywhere near as well at any time since the 80's.

Whether they're any good is obviously a matter of opinion, they've sold a lot of albums and many of their shows have huge audiences so many people think highly of them. The fans at these shows also seem to know all the lyrics which indicates they are not just casual fans.

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1 hour ago, AlSymerz said:

Their schtick is no different to white face paint and screaming incoherently about satan. It's no different to a bunch of guys singing about pussy and having sex with women. It's just a gimmick to get noticed and it worked. Not only did it work the 80's was the right time to do it, the same schtick wouldn't work anywhere near as well at any time since the 80's.

Whether they're any good is obviously a matter of opinion, they've sold a lot of albums and many of their shows have huge audiences so many people think highly of them. The fans at these shows also seem to know all the lyrics which indicates they are not just casual fans.

Yeah Taylor Swift sells out all her sports arena shows and sells a shit ton of albums too, she's a fucking billionaire now. I'm quite sure her fans know all the lyrics as well. Nobody cares.

And you just proved my point about the schtick. Those poseurs went pretty hard at all the glam bands of the day calling for "death to false metal." Yet their schtick was no different than the hairspray and spandex, it was just as cringe. And that makes them fucking hypocrites. No one likes a hypocrite. That's why a certain segment of the metalhead population hated them more than if they'd just quietly done their oil and loincloth thing and left it at that. Not saying bands can't have their schtick, but bands who live in glass houses shouldn't throw stones.

Now you and I can badmouth bands to our heart's content, because we're just some random assholes on an internet forum. Nobody gives two shits about what we have to say. But high profile metal bands who feel the need to badmouth other metal bands when they're no better, that's not a good look man, it's pretty fucking lame. If you have to constantly tell people how fucking metal you are, then maybe you're not as metal as you thought you were.

I guess maybe you're used to that sort of thing in the mainstream metal world, bands talking shit about each other and their former members 'n shit, but I don't have time for that kind of nonsense. I like when bands just play their damn music and let that do their talking for them. Let the listeners and the critics be the judge. I don't even necessarily need to know the names of the musicians in most of the bands I like, most of them go by pseudonyms anyway. I certainly don't need to see pics of them in their jocks, I just come to hear the music.

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By the fact that these people and groups have millions of followers literally says plenty of people care.

The whole metal community is full of hypocrites. Manowar's false metal claims, black metal satanists preaching stuff they know nothing about or practice. Guitar gods twanging themselves on stage thinking they are god's gift to women. And pretty much all of them have at one time or another shit on other bands. For me, I don't mind a bit of pantomime and goofiness, but good luck to anyone that wants to take that shit seriously.

About the only bands that were totally true to their image was the 80's Chick with Dicks that sung about fucking women and had scores of groupies following them to every show.

 

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