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is he really a racist and an anti semite? I have heard so much conjecture about this that its starting to affect my appreciation of his music. Whether he is or isn't the biggest pos on earth would never change his talent and his amazing mucis, but idk the more I think about it the less I want to even listen to somebody that hated non whites and jewish people. There isn't much online readily accessible concerning these claims.

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Yes, Varg REALLY is racist and an antisemite. I've been a fan of his music since about '94. I've read shitloads of interviews with him, I've read his books and all the stuff on his websites. He is definitely a %100 BIG TIME racist and an antisemite. Although, he is not a Nazi in that he is not at all socialist, and Nazism is a combination of nationalism and socialism. Varg is only nationalist. I love his music but I think he is personally a horrendous person.

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Yes' date=' Varg REALLY is racist and an antisemite. I've been a fan of his music since about '94. I've read shitloads of interviews with him, I've read his books and all the stuff on his websites. He is definitely a %100 BIG TIME racist and an antisemite. Although, he is not a Nazi in that he is not at all socialist, and Nazism is a combination of nationalism and socialism. Varg is only nationalist. I love his music but I think he is personally a horrendous person.[/quote'] National socialism is actually a misnomer, as "socialism" was a big buzzword in the early 1900's. There is nothing socialist about the Nazi party, they didn't even have an economic platform, the label was just attached to grab people's interest. And yes, Varg is a douche bag. Some of the stuff he says makes sense, if you believe in his ideology, but I don't. My meaning being that he's not insane, he has logical thought progressions based on his claims, it's just that his claims are mostly bullshit. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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National socialism is actually a misnomer' date=' as "socialism" was a big buzzword in the early 1900's. There is nothing socialist about the Nazi party, they didn't even have an economic platform, the label was just attached to grab people's interest.[/quote'] You are partially correct, yes, the appellation was probably just put on as a "buzzword" but you don't take into account that Nazi Germany did have many social programs, such as Strength Through Joy and Lebensborn. Also, the party was much more socialist in it's early days, Goebbels even supported land redistribution.
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It's true, I really think he is that way. I tried to read his pamphlet that he wrote as an e-book, and it turned me off pretty quickly. It's a shame, really, because he is so talented. I love his music. I don't think his music is overtly racist in itself, which is why I still listen to it. He's written some terrific songs. Just turned out to be so awful in life. :(

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Socialism works in that way - if you will be doing what we say and pay big taxes, you will have for sure work, free health-care, safety etc. For me every political system which tries to control you as an individuality is socialist. People in Hitler's Germany were forced (later, of course) to participate in rallies, send their children to hitlerjugend etc. So in some way he was socialising a society - therefore Adie was a socialist in some way... I don't even mention that NSDAP got more popular when there was a big crisis in Germany, when there wasn't enough work for everybody etc. And yes, Varg is a bit crazy. I don't like the most how he uses european mythologies to spread his racial theories. It doesn't make any sense if you read any serious book about the subject... The only good thing that I can say about him (beside music, which is genius) is that he wants only good for Europe. He has good intentions. By the way, this subject about Varg and national socialism is sooo broad, we can discuss it for ages :P

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A musician who makes music that appeals to a majority actually turns out to not be a nice person shocker! More at 11!
Might be stretching it with the "majority" bit. It's a good point, though, and I know BAN has said as much before - you shouldn't need to agree with someone's ideology to enjoy the music they make. I understand. But it's still something I have a hard time getting past, with Burzum in particular, because it's such personal music, and he's pretty far beyond being "not a nice person". I've been listening to more Burzum lately than I have in years, but I have a hard time hearing the music without thinking about his views and his actions, and I don't really want to dwell on that.
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I really like burzum too. As far as buying his records i'd feel bad giving my money to some psychopath. I think Varg would use my money on doing some crazy thing like burning churches or killing sombody he dislikes like he did Euronymous.
To be fair, Euronymous was killed for a better reason than Varg just not liking him. According to (if memory serves correct) Mortiis and It (of Abruptum et al.), both freinds of Euronymous, he was issuing Death threats against Varg. And not just stuff like, "I'll kill that guy!" But more like secretly only telling a few people about a scheme to torture Varg to death and make a video of it.
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To be fair' date=' Euronymous was killed for a better reason than Varg just not liking him. According to (if memory serves correct) Mortiis and It (of Abruptum et al.), both freinds of Euronymous, he was issuing Death threats against Varg. And not just stuff like, "I'll kill that guy!" But more like secretly only telling a few people about a scheme to torture Varg to death and make a video of it.[/quote'] Your right but Euronymous probably din't have any intentions of killing Count Grishnackh. If you read about Euronymous he did and said things just to look hardcore. even Vikernes himself said that he was faking his image. So i think Euronymous just had a big mouth.
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I really like burzum too. As far as buying his records i'd feel bad giving my money to some psychopath. I think Varg would use my money on doing some crazy thing like burning churches or killing sombody he dislikes like he did Euronymous.
What does a litre of petrol and a Bic lighter cost? How much is a kitchen knife? If you like his music, buy it. Or. I guess you just torrent it all. Why do you think burning a church is a crazy thing? Do you work? If you do, you pay taxes and therefore you pay to have people that are disliked killed.
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To a point Varg Vikernes lived in Iraq for about a year during his childhood because his father was working on computer programming systems for one of the islamic extremists there. His father owned a Nazi flag and his parents were always worried about Vikernes "Coming home with a black girl." Vikernes's grandparents were supposedly norwegian officers working for the nazis during World War 2. Varg Vikernes is currently open and supportive of his Pagan/Viking ancestry and blames christianity for ending Norse culture in Scandinavia. Varg Vikernes is an anti-semitite and openly supports Nazism, but he leaves these things completely out of his music. Varg's philosophy is based on germanic paganism and the norse gods. He is currently awaiting trial for a suspected terrorist attack, due to previous accounts of his church burnings and aryan supremist claims.

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Varg Vikernes lived in Iraq for about a year during his childhood because his father was working on computer programming systems for one of the islamic extremists there.
If his father was a Nazi as your statement implies why in the bloody hell would he be working for Iraqi terrorists? The simple fact of the matter is that Nazism presents a racial theory positing the supremacy of Germanic Caucasians - which is what delineates it from regular fascism. So too Nazism is particularly anti-religious and thus his decision to work with avowed Sunni or Shiite Muslims would be entirely disingenuous.
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If his father was a Nazi as your statement implies why in the bloody hell would he be working for Iraqi terrorists? The simple fact of the matter is that Nazism presents a racial theory positing the supremacy of Germanic Caucasians - which is what delineates it from regular fascism. So too Nazism is particularly anti-religious and thus his decision to work with avowed Sunni or Shiite Muslims would be entirely disingenuous.
The poster above said his grandparents were Nazis, not his parents. I remember reading something about a relative of his name Qvisling who was affiliated with the Nazi party that Varg looked up to, and adopted his name. Sent from my HTC PH39100 using Tapatalk 2
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The poster above said his grandparents were Nazis' date=' not his parents.[/quote'] I suppose I did make the assumption that if his dad had a Nazi flag that he was by extension a Nazi. If his parents were racists that certainly fits with Nazism.
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