Why do metal music fans believe in dinosaurs?

Christians famously do not see eye-to-eye with metal music fans, as they are unGodly, smelly and seem to revel in insulting Jesus Christ. But here at Christians Against Dinosaurs we put our money where our mouth is, and so in the spirit of tolerance, understanding, togetherness and the true meaning of Christmas we have commissioned a special report into these long-haired deviants to find out where they stand on the subject of dinosaurs, and to try to build bridges. After all we are all God's children, except maybe those funny Norwegian ones in their clown makeup. TRIGGER WARNING: CONTAINS FOUL LANGUAGE, SATANIC IMAGERY AND DINOSAURS http://youtu.be/hry-cRRcXa8

Well, I don't "revel in insulting Jesus Christ", but I do revel in castigating needlessly confrontational and idiotic behavior by folks who seek out trouble by insulting a community with whom they plan to engage, especially when I'm forced to count them as co-religionists. "A fool's lips enter into contention: his mouth calls for blows." (Proverbs 18:6) This was far worse than I expected. If you would like to protest dinosaurs as a part of evolution I'd recommend getting a degree in a relevant field and write a thesis, then cite the work of like-minded individuals to support your case in a peer review. It does not seem to me to be the best use of your time to go trying to have a serious cultural chat with people who are probably grogged out of their minds and in this video seem to be taking the piss like the good Brits they are. Also, I would recommend reading metal lyrics before dismissing the entire genre. I tend to assume most metalheads are atheists, but most metal lyrics aren't anti-Christian in the least. If you prefer metal made by Christians there's no small amount; Lo-Ruhamah, Lengsel, Extol, Drottnar, Crimson Moonlight, Oskord, Paramaecium and Aletheian are just a handful of great Christian bands who have earned respect in the metal community for being good musicians and crafting excellent work.

Not sure if this is some sort of an attempt at epic trolling or not. Generally metalheads are some of the most tolerant, intelligent, caring and honest people you will ever meet. Which are traits also found in Christians. Ironic then that we have in common a set of social features and yet distrust eachother so much. I find a man foolish to blindly believe in something he has never seen or experienced, but I don't rule out the possibility of a supreme deity's existence.

Not sure if this is some sort of an attempt at epic trolling or not.

Are you fucking retarted. That is most. Dumbest thing I'm ever heard just for we have created. The most advanced. Battle weapon [ATTACH=CONFIG]1716[/ATTACH].

'Peer-review' in the context of paleontology is smoke and mirrors, a complete waste of time. 'Dinosaurs' weren't even invented until 1842, and then surprise surprise, a couple of years later the first 'skeletons' were discovered. Conveniently they looked just like it was imagined they would look. Dinosaurs initially started out as a Barnum-style curio, a contest between eccentric Victorian gentlemen to see who could come up with the most fantastical creature (in much the same vein as the Fiji mermaid, for instance). Then money got involved, and the so-called 'paleontologists' abandoned any intention of telling the truth when it became clear how lucrative the dinosaur myth was. Now we have a multi-billion dollar industry devoted to 'dinosaurs', and the vast majority of people do not realise that it is built entirely on lies, hoaxes and falsehoods. I know you believe in dinosaurs, I once did myself. We're fed it from such a young age, and it's so exciting to a small child that we swallow it completely. We don't then have any reason to question it and so we blindly accept it as fact. But I'm sorry to say that it is a lie, and the whole world is being played by big paleo. Open your mind, realise that all you've ever heard about dinosaurs has come from third parties with vested interests.

I find a man foolish to blindly believe in something he has never seen or experienced

Big Paleo is paving the way for the coming of the Antichrist. The simple, short answer to your question is that most (basically all) metalheads support dinosaur theory for this reason, out of scorn and hatred for Jesus. The full truth is, of course, more complex. I was, like many one-time children including yourself, fed dinosaurs from a young age. I thought they were delicious, and didn't really begin to question until I found out about the existence of textured vegetable protein. It slowly dawned on me that, far from dinosaurs, what I'd been swallowing that whole time was probably not even real meat. My world fell apart. That crisis pushed me towards Jesus for a while, because I had heard that the Church would at least serve meat on Sundays. Imagine my disappointment, my sense of emptiness, when I discovered that it stayed a cracker the whole way down! I can't expect you to agree with my actions, but surely you can at least understand them in that context - ill-informed choices made by a hungry young man. Of course there followed some dark times, where I listened to everything from T-Rex to Deinonychus, always asking myself if any of it had been real. That experience was the tipping point, though; that's when I really began to open my eyes. And that's when it hit me. Dinosaurs are everywhere. They're all around us. They've invaded popular culture: They make political decisions: And they've even infiltrated the highest levels of Christianity. Most metalheads worship dinosaurs out of a cynical desire to oppose Jesus. Their support is necessary for the coming of the Antichrist, but they don't believe any of it's real. The truth behind the hoax is not that dinosaurs don't exist; it's that they're still alive, among us even now. And there's nothing we can do.

Dinosaurs also make. Beautiful music for kids. yxJUVl6ap6c

Plus. This dinosaur love kids too

Well there's no need to mock, FatherAlabaster. There is however a lot of truth in what you say, even if you can't yet see it. In addition to the above, dinosaurs are very bad role models for children. Imagine a child, high on the myth of the Tyrannosaur, becoming bestially minded before running wildly around the place before biting somebody on the face. Is that what we want for our society? To be bitten on the face? Would your life be in any way worse if you did not believe in dinosaurs? Deathstorm, that dinosaur is (thankfully) not real, but frankly I don't think I'm the only one to question his motives for wanting to hang around children all the time. Distressingly, it's not even just metal music that has been infected with the dinosaur lie. Here are some Dutchmen making music with computers, imploring us to worship the Diplodocus. This runs very deep, I'm sad to say. Only by recognising the truth and spreading it as best we can can we hope to free people from their enslavement. https://soundcloud.com/killthenoise/noisia-diplodocus-kill-the

Dude. Have you gone to a musem. To see them. They did exist.

If you watch my video you will see that I did go to a museum. The majority of 'skeletons' on display are replicas (they will admit this), made of resin and plaster. They call them replicas, but only in the sense that C-3PO from Star Wars is a replica of a robot. In many cases bones from entirely different animals are put together, and in all cases the fossils are arranged in aesthetically-pleasing ways, rather than in any relation to anything that ever actually existed. Have you ever seen a cat's skeleton? If you put scaly lizard skin over it you'll find that it looks rather like a so-called 'dinosaur'. Read about the Bone Wars and tell me how sure you are that dinosaurs are real. Bone Wars - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

there is no myth of a tyrannosaurs rex. it did exist. they did exist around 250 millions of years. Ago.

Dinosaurs are bad role models? What about these supposed "men of God" that have been exposed for being drug addicts, cheating on or killing their spouses, embezzling from their church, engaging in pedophilia and more. They are leading "believers" down a righteous path? Can't say that I've ever heard about dinosaurs being guilty of doing any of those things. And no need to mock? But it's ok to throw out insults (smelly, Norwegen) Or was that your failed attempt @ humor. I honestly cannot recall if I've ever seen or heard of anyone being won over by being insulted, belittled or met with confrontation for what they believe in. This is laughable.

I could say that 250 million years ago, chlorophyll used to be red. And you wouldn't be able to prove me wrong. Because it was 250 million years ago and nobody was there to see it. How do we even know the Tyrannosaur's name if it was around so long ago? And Mere, yes there are some horrible things that have been done by people who claim to be Godly, but their actions prove that they are not. There's no entrance exam to calling oneself a Christian, and unfortunately people can be very good at deluding themselves into thinking that they are holy. I did not mean to insult anybody, I wasn't aware that being called Norwegian was considered an insult in metal music circles. Why don't you like the Norwegians?

Just got back from church to find all this.

'Peer-review' in the context of paleontology is smoke and mirrors' date=' a complete waste of time. 'Dinosaurs' weren't even invented until 1842, and then surprise surprise, a couple of years later the first 'skeletons' were discovered. Conveniently they looked just like it was imagined they would look.[/quote'] It's also a waste of the time of your entire audience not to cite sufficient evidence for your findings, even from other like-minded individuals. Normally because of the education I'm getting I'd insist on scholarly journal articles only, but even some informal journalism would be of some use here. Wikipedia is not good enough, especially not when the article in its summary notes that "The efforts of the two men led to over 142 new species of dinosaurs being discovered and described, though today only 32 are valid." Furthermore, this event seems to have been about two men, which is quite simply not enough to demonstrate your claim that peer review in paleontology is nonsense. To the point: it's almost exactly the other way around. According to the Sixth Extinction by Elizabeth Kolbert, the French archaeologist Georges Cuvier tried very hard to integrate dinosaur fossils into versions of currently existing animals, but the gigantism displayed by the bones discovered suggested larger and differently structured variants of lizards. Also your time period is wrong: the first gigantic bone suggesting dinosaurs was discovered in 1677 (Sarjeant). I think what would most surprise you is the fact that the man largely responsible for providing some of the earliest evidence of the existence of dinosaurs is one Rev. William Buckland, an English creationist who published his findings in 1825. It's true that the term dinosaur was coined in 1842 but there was evidence well before then.

To Cadministry I would like to say, with a warm and open heart, that your movie making is of low quality. The sound was especially poor. It was a questionable move to record in such a complicated acoustic environment. Also the fact that you were getting people to say things that they did not believe hurt your point because I assumed it was a joke. I'll take it as a given that you are for real, and assume it is the case that you are something of a fundamentalist who believes in a young earth, and that "big paleo" is a part of satin's efforts to deceive. That is a hard row to hoe pilgrim, so I feel for you. Now..as for the rest of you. What is up with this forum that hassling some square about his belief system is the best way to be spending your time*? Didn't I just put it straight on that point regarding the evil pastor who didn't like blasphemy. Why doesn't one of you listen to a metal album and then maybe write a coherent post about what you did or didn't like about it, and in the mean time I'm gonna head over to the "what's on your mind" thread and horns up every single fucking post in which Iceni labels parts of his anatomy because (crass as it may be) that's the best thing going on at metal forum these days, so bless you for that Iceni, keep up the good work! *this is a note for Alabaster, I'm torn and guess you should really get an exemption since your post was very funny and you took the time to back it up with nice pictures. It's a hard call.

Iceni is my hero!

I could say that 250 million years ago, chlorophyll used to be red. And you wouldn't be able to prove me wrong. Because it was 250 million years ago and nobody was there to see it. How do we even know the Tyrannosaur's name if it was around so long ago? And Mere, yes there are some horrible things that have been done by people who claim to be Godly, but their actions prove that they are not. There's no entrance exam to calling oneself a Christian, and unfortunately people can be very good at deluding themselves into thinking that they are holy. I did not mean to insult anybody, I wasn't aware that being called Norwegian was considered an insult in metal music circles. Why don't you like the Norwegians?

What harm would there actually be in dinosaurs existing? Would it mean that your young earth fundamentalism would contain holes that you're not willing to face or contend with? If God is an eternal and omnipresent being as you assert, what difference would it make if the universe has existed for billions of years as opposed to thousands? If something so simple as a literal interpretation that flies in the face of science is all that it takes to shake your faith and decry an entire field of science as a demonic falsehood, then perhaps you should examine yourself more closely. If dinosaurs truly are mythical creatures, then why not crusade against unicorns, sphynx, griffins, dragons, or other mythological creatures that actually play into occult symbolism that may actually be harmful to your fundamentalist beliefs? This whole thing just seems incredibly pointless, as unless you buy into the Alex Jones lizard people conspiracies, I can't see dinosaurs leading any kind of anti-Christian mission against you.

'Peer-review' in the context of paleontology is smoke and mirrors, a complete waste of time. 'Dinosaurs' weren't even invented until 1842, and then surprise surprise, a couple of years later the first 'skeletons' were discovered. Conveniently they looked just like it was imagined they would look. Dinosaurs initially started out as a Barnum-style curio, a contest between eccentric Victorian gentlemen to see who could come up with the most fantastical creature (in much the same vein as the Fiji mermaid, for instance). Then money got involved, and the so-called 'paleontologists' abandoned any intention of telling the truth when it became clear how lucrative the dinosaur myth was. Now we have a multi-billion dollar industry devoted to 'dinosaurs', and the vast majority of people do not realise that it is built entirely on lies, hoaxes and falsehoods. I know you believe in dinosaurs, I once did myself. We're fed it from such a young age, and it's so exciting to a small child that we swallow it completely. We don't then have any reason to question it and so we blindly accept it as fact. But I'm sorry to say that it is a lie, and the whole world is being played by big paleo. Open your mind, realise that all you've ever heard about dinosaurs has come from third parties with vested interests. And have you seen or experienced dinosaurs?

Excuse me if this sounds rude or offensive in any way, Iceni, but I have to ask: do you really know the Bible by heart that well or do you just have a number of quotes ready for when you rip someone's arguments to shreds?

Excuse me if this sounds rude or offensive in any way' date=' Iceni, but I have to ask: do you really know the Bible by heart that well or do you just have a number of quotes ready for when you rip someone's arguments to shreds?[/quote'] As he claims to be somewhat of a rather well-educated man, my guess would be that he has a limited knowledge of the bible.

As he claims to be somewhat of a rather well-educated man' date=' my guess would be that he has a limited knowledge of the bible.[/quote'] You haven't been around for that long, so maybe he'll give you a pass...

As he claims to be somewhat of a rather well-educated man' date=' my guess would be that he has a limited knowledge of the bible.[/quote'] So well educated people are exclusively not Christian?